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The filthy treacherous xenos.
I don't remember much about the plot now except that there wasn't much of one, but they were on this planet to do... stuff and there are Chaos Marines and... stuff
That should totally be the strapline for the movie.
Ultramarine: There Are Chaos Marines and Stuff
The movie Beyond the Black Rainbow, a movie I have been very interested in, has finally got itself an American distributor, though there's still no word on if/when/where it will appear in theaters (or if it will ever appear in Canada). There is a new trailer, though.
This movie is so Seventies they had to make it in 2010 because the Seventies couldn't contain it.
Yep, the choice of maps is fantastic.
I was especially pleased (and surprised) to see the map from The Phantom Tollbooth featured so prominently, I spent a lot of time as a kid studying that map. It's still one of my favorite children's books, and still stands up today.
I have started reading the cartography article, but am intimidated by the literarytheoriness of it and keep giving up.
Aw, the literarytheoriness was one reason I liked the article so much.
I have a passing interest in the history of cartography, and I am (like Nicholas) surprised that no one's done a full scholarly monograph on the fictional maps. I really love the idea of maps in fantasy novels that somehow reflect the culture that may have produced them. That ties right into the Yggdrasil point, too, in that fantasy maps need not conform to our own expectation of what a map "is", and can be read as their own texts (what's emphasized? What's not? And All That) beyond their function as representing the geography of some imaginary place.
I just didn't have any responses to it beyond "buh pretty pictures".
Yep, the choice of maps is fantastic. (There are some terribly bad fantasy maps out there, after all, that fail at both an artistic and practical level)
The Yggdrasil point I also thought was very sound.
Yes, I liked that part too. Gene Wolfe's Wizard Knight series has that sort of 'cosmology map' at the beginning, and coincidentally enough those books draw heavily on Norse mythology.
@Valse: I'm intrigued. Could you expand on that, or is it just Generically Bad?
In fairness I think the point about ambiguity slash room for interpretation is a very strong one that's undervalued. Maps can tend to constrain your imagination in terms of the book, and reduce the sense of being limited to the characters' knowledge, and they do increase the likelihood of plot holes. Also they tend to make geographers cry. The Yggdrasil point I also thought was very sound.
However, I think it's fair to say that this discussion is not productive – so can I ask that we talk about something that isn't Mr Bakker.
If you, a non-racist, say something racist even unintentionally and a person of color calls you out on it in a tone you dislike, do you disregard what that person has to say? It is not the responsibility of that person to make sure your feelings are okay when it is your statement that continues the dominant culture's oppressiveness. The comment doesn't need to be racist. It could be sexist, misogynistic, ablist, agist, homophobic, transphobic, sizist, classist, and whatever I'm missing. Those statements still devalue the human.
I'm sure Bakker's books, too, are great art by the way. Arthur? You aren't wrapped up in your sexuality or ethnicity, right, so I am sure you can teach me how to look at those books rationally.
If you put gender and sexuality and ethnicity aside what you're left with is some page-turny brick-sized grimdark fantasy novels which happened to come out at the time when that was the fashionable bandwagon to be on. So not what I'd call "high art", if I had to sort things into high and low art categories despite my disinclination to.
On the other hand, I didn't read Alasdair's use of "art" as implying "high art".
On the third hand, if you worked engage what the story was actually doing in that trilogy rather than paying attention to all the fail surrounding it, I'd have to say it was... um... wasting everyone's time. Sorry, Alasdair, but the Aspect-Emperor doesn't have any clothes.