Welcome to the Playpen, our space for ferrety banter and whimsical snippets of things that aren't quite long enough for articles (although they might be) but that caught your eye anyway.

at 11:02 on 19-04-2012, Rami
Shimmin, Adrienne: the article thing is a good idea, I'll put one up. My awful markup is unfortunately already a matter of public record, no sense trying to hide it now ;-)
at 23:41 on 18-04-2012, Adrienne
Shimmin: Totally makes sense. Sorry, I'm possibly bad at UNDERSTANDING sense today, I'm in the middle of a crazy end-of-project-argh-we're-running-out-of-hours-for-debugging thing.
at 23:14 on 18-04-2012, Shim
Ah, sorry, I'm bad at making sense.

Rami was suggesting taking the discussion offline, so I thought that one option to keep things collaborative but avoid filling the Playpen would be for him or Kyra to start an "article" about the revamp in general. "Ferretbrain is having a revamp!" You know, like newspapers have guff about their New Shiny Format! only less insufferable. Then people like you with suggestions or ideas could comment on it, other people could lurk or ignore as they like, and for a bonus there's an easily-accessible set of revamping-thoughts gathered in one handy place.

So what I meant last post was, Rami or Kyra would be the best person to write a quick article about what they're doing, because they're doing it. I could do it, but would have no idea what to write. You may not have article-making privilege yet so you probs can't. Does that make any more sense..? *hopeful worried face*

But of course if Rami prefers to wash his dirty tags in private that's his privilege :)
at 22:54 on 18-04-2012, Adrienne
Actually I'm the one Rami was just saying should email him outside of the Playpen, to complain about his HTML. :)
at 22:46 on 18-04-2012, Shim
Oh, I was actually aiming that one at Rami or Kyra, since they're the ones working on the revamp. I'd do it myself but I wouldn't have the faintest what to write about it.
at 22:35 on 18-04-2012, Adrienne
Shimmin, I'd be down for that but I have no idea how to actually do the article thing around here. :) I'm not even a contributor yet. But if someone fills me in/adds me to a list/whatever, I'm totally happy to have that happen!
at 22:01 on 18-04-2012, Shim
If you want to talk technical, perhaps we should take this off the Playpen where people are doubtless bored of it?

Slightly random, but you could always start an "article" about the revamp and then people could chip in, if that seemed good to you.
at 20:28 on 18-04-2012, Rami
Adrienne: Please do! Even though it had a revamp a mere five years ago, lots of it dates back to Original Ferretbrain (2006)...

If you want to talk technical, perhaps we should take this off the Playpen where people are doubtless bored of it? Drop an email to webmaster@fb and we can get a conversation going!
at 20:10 on 18-04-2012, James D
I should watch that too, I pooped out somewhere in the second season just because I wasn't interested in non-Lynch Twin Peaks and the ending to the whole Laura Palmer thing was just so satisfying that I didn't want to spoil it for myself. I love the whole ambiguity of the Twin Peaks 'mythos' and trying to codify it or explain too much really deflates a lot of the appeal. But if the final episode is a good'un, I'll check it out.
at 20:00 on 18-04-2012, Arthur B
(It's a great final episode though, because it's basically David Lynch coming back to the series after a long break, tutting at the mess his understudies have made of the series, and fixing it by burning everything to the ground.)
at 19:57 on 18-04-2012, Arthur B
Most people put the break point on TP somewhere in the second season. Not sure where I'd put it (it's been a while since I've seen it) but
when someone seriously proposes that BOB is "the evil that men do" it's a pretty clear sign that the point of no return has been passed.

I would skip to the last episode personally. The important bits to give you the context for those are:

- Windom Earle, an FBI agent turned psychopath who - amongst other things - killed his wife after she had a dalliance with Dale Cooper has come to Twin Peaks and is out to break into the Black Lodge and destroy Cooper.

- Cooper has met a nice lady named Annie and they are in love, despite Cooper having visions of the Giant which strongly imply that his connection to Annie may spell trouble for both of them. As you go into the final episode, Annie has just been kidnapped by Earle.

- Audrey is all tangled up in some stupid bullshit to do with something stashed in the bank which you don't need to worry about.

That's honestly all you need to know.
at 19:51 on 18-04-2012, Alasdair Czyrnyj
Okay, I'm about halfway through the second season of Twin Peaks and I'm thinking it's about time for me to stop watching. I've seen the revelation of Laura Palmer's killer (wait, should I spoiler this? The show's about as old as my sister now. Ehh, I suppose.) and
Ray Wise was just amazing. I've heard people complain that he overdid it, but I think that was what the show needed. Oh, and he also managed to make "Mairzy Doats" the stuff of nightmares.
However, in the second season the show is starting to evolve from a central mystery with a bunch of allegorical side stories into a soap opera, and a lot of the soapier elements are, well, kinda dumb and boring, and everything I've heard says that the show really loses focus after this point. It's been suggested I should skip to the last two episodes after this, but I wanted to hear what anyone else here thought.
at 23:00 on 17-04-2012, Adrienne
Rami: Can I complain about your markup? :)
at 19:11 on 17-04-2012, Rami
Andy: Thanks!

Adrienne: that would be much appreciated!
at 19:10 on 17-04-2012, Wardog
Has the font changed again, I can't tell anymore! *sobs*

And, oooh...that sounds exciting :D
at 17:58 on 17-04-2012, Adrienne
I've been vaguely considering doing a Stylish (userstyle) redesign of FB and submitting it to the Powers That Be for consideration, actually.
at 16:55 on 17-04-2012, Andy G
Idea wasn't that everyone could customize their experience, but that people could check out the different looks you've been experimenting with. I've added it as an issue though!
at 16:41 on 17-04-2012, Rami
Andy: letting everyone customize their experience is a lot of work, so I'm unlikely to get to it -- but could you raise an Issue about it anyway, so I've got it on my list of things to consider?
at 15:43 on 17-04-2012, Andy G
He says, volunteering somebody else to do it!
at 15:42 on 17-04-2012, Andy G
Would it be possible to have different options available as different page styles so people could fiddle and see what they liked best?

Also, I think once all the changes have been made, they need to be tweaked slightly to be in proportion to one another.
at 15:27 on 17-04-2012, Wardog
I hate it - it looks really fussy :( :( :(
at 13:49 on 17-04-2012, Andy G
Very nice!
at 10:54 on 17-04-2012, Rami
I'm afraid you're stuck on the merry-go-round of seeing things as and when I have time to implement them -- but if this works then cool :-)
at 10:50 on 17-04-2012, Arthur B
Hey, the font changed again! (This one looks awesome in Chrome.)