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Welcome to the Playpen, our space for ferrety banter and whimsical snippets of things that aren't quite long enough for articles (although they might be) but that caught your eye anyway.

at 21:15 on 08-06-2011, Andrew Currall
"Science" takes an unexpectedly long nine steps to reach "philosophy", but does get there.
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at 19:56 on 08-06-2011, Andy G
Finally got it to work with Operation Silver Shovel!
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at 19:09 on 08-06-2011, Andy G
On the other hand, the Indo-European languages loop does include Ancient Greek!
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at 19:06 on 08-06-2011, Andy G
Actually, that includes "Germany" - you missed the link to "German" Dan, and that naturally gets you to "Indo-European languages" pretty quickly ...
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at 17:22 on 08-06-2011, Andrew Currall
The Indo-European Languages one seems to be a very easy one to hit, since links to "Greek" are actually quite common- I've ended up in that same loop twice now. Still interesting how many topic do end up at philosophy after relatively few steps.
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at 16:41 on 08-06-2011, Arthur B
The conclusion is inescapable: we must discard all philosophy expressed in Indo-European languages or originating in Germany, it's all red herrings.
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at 16:03 on 08-06-2011, Andy G
I got stuck in a loop with Indo-European languages > Language family > Language > Human > Taxonomy > Ancient Greek > Greek language > Indo-European languages
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at 15:43 on 08-06-2011, Dan H
Aha! I have found an exception!

Of all things: Germany > Western Europe > Low Context Culture > High Context Culture > Low Context Culture (repeat)

Presumably this works for a lot of places in Western Europe...
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at 15:13 on 08-06-2011, Dan H
I was put off of this one by its being referenced on xkcd (still on a hatey part of the love-hate curve there) but it's interesting how well this works. I suspect it's got something to do with the fact that the first link in a page tends to be the most general, and things will eventually generalize back to "philosophy". It might also be that under the rules of the game, philosophy returns to itself in a few clicks.

Trying the odd random article:

Gillian Mears > Short Story > Fiction > Narrative > Story > Sequence > Mathematics > Quantity > Property > Modern Philosophy > Philosophy

History of FC Seoul > FC Seoul > Football > Association Football > Team Sport > Sport > Organization > Spelling Differences > Oxford Spelling > OUP > University Press > Academia > Community > Interaction > Causality > Event > Philosophy

Lawn, Texas > Taylor County, Texas > County (United States) > U.S. State > Federated State > Constitution > State (polity) > Social Sciences > List of Academic Disciplines > Academia (etc)

For this to work you do have to ignore links contained in disambiguation text ("this is about X, for information on Y, see Y") since those will often be circular).
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at 10:47 on 08-06-2011, Arthur B
I have lots of fun with The Wiki Game myself.
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at 05:17 on 08-06-2011, Frank
Wikipedia articles lead to philosophy.
I tried this out with 'shit'. It took 20 clicks. 'Quantum mechanics' took 12.
'Baba Yaga' was wanky, but fiddling around I got there in 22*.

*with an asterisk
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at 04:52 on 08-06-2011, Michal
Did anyone here read Under Heaven by Guy Gavriel Kay, and if so, was anyone else a little infuriated by the surprise romance ending? After the glory that was The Last Light of the Sun, I started to feel the creeping feelers of disappointment with this one. Especially since, once again, Kay has snuck in a female assassin (fine, okay), except this time, we get to see someone else partake in almost-necrophilia after her death before someone stops him (...not okay). Though that also happened to be the one time I've laughed out loud at a Kay novel, presumably for all the wrong reasons. I probably should have stopped there.
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at 01:25 on 08-06-2011, Alasdair Czyrnyj
Sigh...I know I should probably get angry about this, but I've raged about this issue before, and I've basically run out of anything new to rage about. If we're lucky this thing will end up like that Fallujah video game that sank beneath the waves a few years back.

Thankfully, if seeing video games about murder-happy superspy/soldiers with xenophobic storylines is getting you down, another upcoming game will let you vent your feelings in a mature and reasonable fashion.
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at 01:07 on 08-06-2011, Rude Cyrus
Upcoming video game where the player takes on the role of a Blackwater mercenary.

I'm not sure how to feel about this. On the one hand, turning Blackwater, a company that's been linked to the killing of civilians and noncombatants into the good guys fighting evil non-whites is crass as hell. On the other hand, isn't every war video game crass as hell?

Still, it's something that's bugged me about contemporary war shooters, most recently with Black Ops, the latest installment in the Call of Duty franchise (at least until MW3 is released).
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at 23:04 on 07-06-2011, Andy G
Can anyone hear what they were saying in that interview? I heard lots of ROFLing but not much of the actual words.
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at 20:27 on 07-06-2011, Melissa G.
I found a video of the interview with David Thewlis mentioned in that Movie Line piece, and he actually says no such thing. He says the director told him to play it gay *without JKR's knowledge*, and then makes a joke about it.
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at 19:14 on 07-06-2011, Wardog
I did do a vague amount of digging - 5 minute journalism if you will. And Frank is right, I can't actually trace a legitimate source beyond people all reacting in instinctive "oh no she didn't" to the Movie Line piece. I think it's just shit stirring to be honest.
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at 17:19 on 07-06-2011, Sister Magpie
I need to hear an exact quote on the Lupin as ex-gay thing before I believe JKR said any such thing. I feel like that's one of those garbled things, like maybe Cuaron said Lupin was gay but then he got with Tonks so Thewlis said maybe he changed or something.
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at 12:50 on 07-06-2011, Arthur B
Some people, when they realise that their political worldview resembles a cheesy 80s cartoon, would reconsider their worldview.

Others conclude that said cartoon predicted the future.
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at 23:35 on 06-06-2011, Cammalot
I don't get why anyone is interested in being king

Mostly to keep other people from doing it, it seems.
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at 23:26 on 06-06-2011, Dan H
I don't get why anyone is interested in being king


Because in the Game of Thrones, you win, or you die.

I'd also point out that most of the people in tGoT *don't* actually want to be king. Part of the reason that Robert is such a sucky ruler is that he doesn't want the job.
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at 23:12 on 06-06-2011, Wardog
They get the best chair, clearly...
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at 22:21 on 06-06-2011, Frank
Back to HBO's Game of Thrones.
I don't get why anyone is interested in being king. Do they get the password to the prefect's bathhouse bathroom or something?
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at 19:46 on 06-06-2011, Melissa G.
*insert obligatory "Are you fucking serious/sirius?" joke here*
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